In order to protect the public facilities in the community, is it reasonable to charge deposit for handling large furniture?

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Mr. Yao, who is engaged in the logistics industry of

in Kangqiao community of poly, has encountered a troublesome problem recently: he and his colleagues were charged a deposit of 100 yuan by the property in the process of a door-to-door delivery. Although leaving the community, the deposit is returned in full, but he is very puzzled, whether the community can collect the deposit of foreign personnel? Are the regulations and amount of deposit reasonable?

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Mr. Yao questioned the practice of property management of Baoli Kangqiao community in Chenghua District through the social appeal platform of network administration in Chengdu.

Chengdu Commercial Daily – Red Star News reporter saw in the video provided by Mr. Yao that the collection and registration process of the deposit was completed by a property worker. While registering the information, the property clerk confirmed the owner’s address, delivery needs and goods information, and asked Mr. Yao to provide identification. In the process of registration, the staff member did not specify the reasons for collecting the deposit, saying that it was a regulation of the property company. Finally, the staff clearly told Mr. Yao that the deposit would be refunded.

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on the afternoon of August 26, the reporter visited Baoli Kangqiao community, No. 199, shanbanqiao Road, Chenghua District. In front of the No. 2 gate of the community, the reporter noticed that the two takeout riders did not return the deposit when they left the community. After the reporter inquired, the reporter learned that the community did not collect the deposit from the takeout rider. The reporter continued to observe in front of the No. 2 gate. A courier confirmed the information with the owner by videophone in front of the door, which was also released by the property staff. During the period, the property staff did not collect the deposit.

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which personnel need to charge deposit when entering and leaving? What is the basis for collecting deposit? Reporter to the community 2 door property staff to understand the situation. “We don’t charge a deposit for the relatives and friends brought in by the owner, and we don’t need a deposit for the delivery express which has confirmed the identity with the owner. For decoration or large furniture handling, we will charge a certain amount of deposit, which will be returned when the staff leave. ” Property staff told reporters that the deposit is not a charge, the purpose is to protect the community’s public facilities, has not received the owner’s objection to this provision. Ms. Liu, a resident of

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, told reporters that she had heard of the deposit, but did not understand the specific provisions. “When our family moved the furniture, the worker told us about it, but I didn’t hear how the standard of deposit was set. I understand the original intention of the property. After all, it is also for the public interest. ”

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reporters visited the real estate intermediary companies around the community. From the Yuyuan branch of Zhongyuan Real estate, jiulongcang, we learned that the property management of poly Kangqiao community is indeed quite strict, but it did not collect deposit from the watchers of real estate intermediary agencies. “We need the owner’s power of attorney and ID card as proof of identity. At the same time, we need the owner to inform the property management and gatekeeper of the community in advance, so as to release the goods smoothly.” A real estate manager told reporters.

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reporters asked poly Kangqiao property company about the amount of deposit and how to collect the deposit, and the reply was “the property does not accept interviews at present”.

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have no relevant laws and regulations. The amount of

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shall be approved by the industry committee. It is not uncommon for property management of

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to collect deposit from outsiders. In Shanghai, Suzhou and other places, property management collects deposit from real estate agents and even all visitors except owners. The amount of deposit per person is mostly less than 50 yuan. Are there any relevant laws and regulations on deposit collection? Who determines the amount of the deposit?

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in response to this problem, Xu Bin, a lawyer from Sichuan Junyi law firm, told reporters that at present, there are no relevant provisions in the law, but it does not mean that property companies can make their own decisions. “The main purpose of property deposit collection is to maintain community order and maintain public facilities, which is reasonable. The deposit must be returned in time when the outsiders leave. The amount of the deposit needs to be approved by the industry committee of the community, which can not infringe on the rights of the owners. ” Song Hongyu, a lawyer with

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Taihe law firm, said that the collection of deposit from outsiders in the residential property actually constitutes a contractual relationship. “There is a contractual relationship between the community property and the outsiders, that is, the premise of deposit refund is that the public facilities and the internal order of the community are not affected. However, if the deposit is withheld, it is necessary to define the nature of the deposit, which can not be detained in the form of a fine, because the residential property is not an administrative organ or a court, and has no power to impose a fine. ”

Chengdu Commercial Daily – Red Star journalist Ye Yan

intern reporter Wang peizhe, photographer LV Guoying

original title: is it reasonable to charge deposit for handling large furniture of public facilities in the community?